Sacha Christie- Woodbridge Presentation

Last month Larry Warren's internet detractors held the conference that they've been boasting about at Woodbridge Community Hall. It is sad to see the traditional hub of Rendlesham Forest UFO Incident events being used for this travesty, but they hired it so what can you do? This event was endorsed by Peter Robbins who could not be there, but sent a written message loaded with his usual flattery. Peter did a radical back-flip and turned against his former co-author a year after Sacha Christie first started posting her supposed evidence against Larry. As a part of this volte-face, Peter launched a vicious attack against my own character, see here for details: http://hpanwo.blogspot.com/2019/02/the-robbinsic-12-document.html. The highlight of the Woodbridge troll shindig was a one hour twenty-five minute lecture by Sacha called "The Larry Warren Fraud Presentation". Sacha is another individual who made a 180 degree about-turn very suddenly in June 2016 after her personal friendship with Larry came to a bitter end. The material she then began posting was huge in volume and very detailed. I examined it and quickly discovered it to be a total fabrication. When I went public with my conclusion she insinuated that I had been discharged from NHS Portering because I had been abusing disabled people. As you can see below, my review consists mostly of links because she says nothing that she has not said before in written form. Anything I omit has been covered by other researchers in detail and there are links in my own posts to their publications.

Source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HGcHmusbjXE.

Sacha begins by describing how she first met Larry in 2007 and how he was a frequent visitor to her family home. For four months, so she reckons, she gave him a place to stay and at the end of this period she then began her blogging campaign against Larry. It begs the question when and how she came across the information she posted and if she kept it to herself beforehand; why? The core thesis she presents is that Larry is a Walter Mitty figure who inserted himself into a false narrative of the UFO encounters in Rendlesham Forest in December 1980. The testimony of another witness, Adrian Bustinza, she regards as genuine and that Larry purloined it for his own use. She points to similarities in Larry's and Bustinza's story. However there are distinct differences too. In my view the two stories are both sincere accounts. They are exactly what you would expect from two witnesses of the same events. The differences are mostly during the aftermath in which their experiences diverge considerably. This could be because of their roles at the RAF Woodbridge-Bentwaters base. Bustinza was an old hand at the rank of staff sergeant, a senior non-commissioned officer. Larry was a new recruit. The evidence is supposedly in Georgina Bruni's book You Can't Tell the People, but when I read it I discovered that was not the case. What's more, Sacha cites that book and also Sky Crash, the original RFI book, to suggest Larry lied about seeing aliens and even faked his hypnotic regression sessions. Even if it is possible to fake a hypnotic trance I still interpreted the texts differently. Details: https://hpanwo-voice.blogspot.com/2018/07/ben-emlyn-jones-on-ghostly-hour-podcast.html.

Sacha claims that Bustinza gives an inadvertent alibi by being with Col. Halt when the deputy commander was recording his famous tape. However this assumes that Halt and Larry's experiences happened on the same night, which has never been established. Bustinza made a short public appearance a few years ago and did some interviews in which he supported Larry. Then he started making some very cryptic statements and went completely quiet again. Larry supposedly confessed to Linda Moulton Howe in 1986 that his story was a copy of Bustinza's, but Linda has never published the tape of their interview, if indeed she did the interview at all. Only a transcript of it is available and who knows who wrote that. Details: https://hpanwo-voice.blogspot.com/2019/08/larry-warren-gossip-update.html and: https://hpanwo-voice.blogspot.com/2019/07/more-anti-larry-warren-gossip.html.

Larry is apparently guilty of grand larceny when it comes to trading fake rock-and-roll memorabilia; however he has never been prosecuted for this very obvious crime. He has not even been arrested and questioned. (I have additional information on this matter that I'm not able to share right now). Details: https://hpanwo-voice.blogspot.com/2018/09/peter-robbins-on-adx-files.html.

For some reason Sacha resuscitates the dead case of the A10 photo. It has become a moot point which nobody is discussing any more. In fact unless the original negative can be unearthed there is no point. Details: https://hpanwo-voice.blogspot.com/2017/01/is-larry-warren-fraud-part-4.html and: https://hpanwo-voice.blogspot.com/2017/02/is-larry-warren-fraud-part-7.html.

There is apparently a discrepancy over Larry's whereabouts during the Christmas period of 1980 immediately before his close encounter. Sacha plays a clip of an interview he did with Tino on the matter, but it is only a brief one. I advise people listen to the whole programme. Details: http://hpanwo-voice.blogspot.com/2017/03/the-larry-warren-controversy-part-9.html.

Larry apparently faked his handwriting on official documents. No he didn't. Details: https://hpanwo-tv.blogspot.com/2017/05/larry-warren-in-rendlesham-forest-2017.html.

Sacha and her supporters were eventually forced to admit that they had no hard evidence for Larry faking his handwriting and eventually cancelled their own analysis project. Details: https://hpanwo-voice.blogspot.com/2017/04/the-larry-warren-controversy-part-11.html.

Sacha says that Larry cannot have been seen by Dr Echols after his experience became the UFO caused him to have eye problems and Dr Echols' current speciality is orthopaedics. That doesn't necessarily follow seeing as Dr Echols was a USAF medic at the time and would therefore probably have been qualified in combat medicine which involves multiple specialities, rather like an A&E house officer in the NHS. He may well have been standing in as a locum during Larry's consultation. Details: https://hpanwo-voice.blogspot.com/2017/06/the-larry-warren-controversy-part-16.html.

There is a tape that Kevin Randle recently published which is supposedly incriminating. (This is not to be confused with Linda Moulton Howe's transcript which emerged at the same time and from the same source). In it Larry discusses his VSA test which he passed. There is a letter from MUFON to Philip Klass of all people, denying this. So is this proof? I think not. Details: https://hpanwo-voice.blogspot.com/2019/08/larry-warren-gossip-update.html and: https://hpanwo-voice.blogspot.com/2019/07/more-anti-larry-warren-gossip.html.

Larry allegedly defaced the "lemon squeezer", the Forestry Commission UFO monument in Rendlesham. No he didn't. Details: https://hpanwo-voice.blogspot.com/2017/07/the-larry-warren-controversy-part-18.html.

Larry supposedly issued threats of violence. No he didn't. In fact if one word of this allegation, or the allegations concerning fake memorabilia, were true, Larry would have been jailed years ago. Sacha virtually admits this at 1:06:52. Details: https://hpanwo-voice.blogspot.com/2017/06/the-larry-warren-controversy-part-16.html.

Larry claims that Sacha was a close acquaintance of some of the men who have been named as the 7/7 bombers. Actually it was she herself who said this in a TV documentary. (I was asked to take part in this series myself... I declined!) Details: https://youtu.be/Tga4hXy8qws?t=348.

Sacha incites feminist outrage by claiming Gary Heseltine hates women. No he doesn't; and it is very serious matter to make such an allegation about man who has a wife and daughters whom he loves. His exact words were:  "Somebody... asked me a very good question, why are there no women (at the upcoming UFO Truth Magazine Conference)? It's not done deliberately. We've had four women speak in the past. There aren't many women, in my opinion, who can stand up in front of two hundred people and talk about evidential things. There are lots of women out there talking about abductions and things like that, but not many on evidential-based things... Unfortunately there aren't many and there certainly aren't many in the UK that would fall into that category. While we've had women in the past and I certainly encourage women to come forward, there just aren't that many about. Although I'm sure we'll have women in the future." Not quite the same, is it? See here for a detailed analysis of this issue: https://hpanwo-tv.blogspot.com/2021/08/women-in-ufology.html. Sacha is once again twisting and distorting people's words to produce a false context. It would be fair to say that Gary is making an observation, one which I agree with; but he is not advocating the removal of female speakers from bookings due to any fundamental flaws of their sex. There are many women who have contributed to evidential UFOlogy; they are simply smaller in quantity, not quality, than the men. I expand on that very issue here, see: http://hpanwo-radio.blogspot.com/2019/08/programme-334-podcast-gary-heseltine.html. Details: https://hpanwo-voice.blogspot.com/2019/08/troll-gossip-backlash.html.

At the end of Sacha Christie's lecture she is presented with a cut glass ornament with text engraved on it by David Young, the conference organizer. This is an obvious parody of Gary's "Courage in UFOlogy" awards. I doubt if anybody failed to see through Young's pale imitation. The conference ended with a long and very complimentary message from none other than Nick Pope. Surely I am not the only one who is suspicious of Nick Pope's interest in this matter. You would think such frivolities would be way beneath "the man from the Ministry", "Britain's Fox Mulder", the official international media pop UFOlogist whom every journalist has on speed-dial whenever a UFO story comes in. Clearly Sacha Christie is not a government disinformer. She is simply motivated by a personal grudge. However she may have inadvertently hit the right note, the one that the government want to amplify. I think this explains the involvement of Nick Pope. Details: https://hpanwo-voice.blogspot.com/2018/09/nick-pope-on-adx-files.html.

All in all this was a very boring and unoriginal presentation by Sacha in which she brings up no new information at all. According to David Young we "Warrenites" were not banned and could have turned up if we wished. I know a few people who went along. However, I had more interesting and enjoyable activities booked for that day; like having a tooth out at the dentist after watching the paint dry on the walls of the waiting room...

See here for more background: https://hpanwo-radio.blogspot.com/2017/05/programme-236-podcast-larry-warren.html.

And: http://hpanwo-radio.blogspot.com/2015/05/programme-139-podcast-peter-robbins-and.html.

And: https://hpanwo-voice.blogspot.com/2018/09/capel-green-update.html.

And: http://hpanwo-voice.blogspot.com/2018/02/ian-ridpath-at-fortean-london.html.