It has come to my attention that Marcus Allen might have done a Charlie Veitch-style U-turn over the Moon Landing Hoax. This came after Marcus, the editor of Nexus magazine (see Links column on the main site, also see the link to the Aulis website “Moon Landing Hoax”), attended a live debate at the British Interplanetary Society a few weeks ago, see: http://www.bis-space.com/2012/01/25/3529/perceived-anomalies-in-the-apollo-lunar-surface-images . Since then he has apparently “seen the light” and realized that the Moon Landings were real after all! The only source for this information so far is a thread on this Skeptic forum: http://www.apollohoax.net/forum/index.php?topic=32.0 One of the posters says there's an article about it in a magazine. Marcus has even become a BIS-member!
I know Marcus personally and if I get the chance to talk to him about this I will. So far the proceedings at the BIS evening have not been released and there is no recording or transcript currently available. The report is from Spaceflight magazine, allegedly; we only have the ApolloHoax members’ word on this. I doubt that that will be unbiased! The real story may turn out to be very different. We shall see. In the meantime I'll keep you posted.
If Marcus really has swapped benches over the Moon Landings then I do hope we in the HB community will accept his change of mind with goodwill. I ask that we remain adult and respectful to him. If we think he’s wrong and then we should criticize him, but we must do it politely. I will not be cancelling my subscription to Nexus and I advise you not to either.
(Edit 13/5/12 at 16.00) Mary Bennett, co-author of "Dark Moon", was there and has written a report:
http://www.aulis.com/allen_bis.htm
(Edit 18/5/12 at 21.00) Here's a photocopy of a Skeptic report into Marcus' speech at the BIS. It's interesting how the two sides interpret the same event so differently. Here we have Marcus faltering desperately in his attempt to explain his theories to the BIS audience. In the end he has a road to Damascus-style conversion. Mary Bennett's report, which was based on Marcus' own testimony, paints a very different picture!
See: http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v239/Gadfium/Forum%20Uploads/19e6ac0e.jpg
(Edit 19/5/12 at 16.30) The film of the debate is now on YouTube. See: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tf1n2rbF_mc
I know Marcus personally and if I get the chance to talk to him about this I will. So far the proceedings at the BIS evening have not been released and there is no recording or transcript currently available. The report is from Spaceflight magazine, allegedly; we only have the ApolloHoax members’ word on this. I doubt that that will be unbiased! The real story may turn out to be very different. We shall see. In the meantime I'll keep you posted.
If Marcus really has swapped benches over the Moon Landings then I do hope we in the HB community will accept his change of mind with goodwill. I ask that we remain adult and respectful to him. If we think he’s wrong and then we should criticize him, but we must do it politely. I will not be cancelling my subscription to Nexus and I advise you not to either.
(Edit 13/5/12 at 16.00) Mary Bennett, co-author of "Dark Moon", was there and has written a report:
http://www.aulis.com/allen_bis.htm
(Edit 18/5/12 at 21.00) Here's a photocopy of a Skeptic report into Marcus' speech at the BIS. It's interesting how the two sides interpret the same event so differently. Here we have Marcus faltering desperately in his attempt to explain his theories to the BIS audience. In the end he has a road to Damascus-style conversion. Mary Bennett's report, which was based on Marcus' own testimony, paints a very different picture!
See: http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v239/Gadfium/Forum%20Uploads/19e6ac0e.jpg
(Edit 19/5/12 at 16.30) The film of the debate is now on YouTube. See: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tf1n2rbF_mc
13 comments:
Thanks for letting us know about this. It would be a shame if Marcus Allen has done a U-turn. While I don’t agree with every aspect of the Apollo Hoax perspective, there are still many questions awaiting satisfactory answers. I’d be interesting in knowing more about where he’ll be going from now, his perspective, etc., in order to see how much of this development is true or simply skewed…
It is slightly worrying though. I have it on good authority that there are several ‘shifting of perspectives’ occurring amongst some notable figures in the alternative community at the moment. Some are hiding their repositions whilst others are dropping hints regarding certain subjects. I won’t go into any detail at present but when I have more quantifiable information I’ll let you know.
I wonder how many other ordinary truth seekers have started to take notice of this. Also why the increased effort / effectiveness of it now? I guess we’ll find out soon enough!
All the best Ben.
Carl (The ‘Guide)
Hi Carl. It's still too early to know for sure. When Marcus makes his own statement then we'll be able to know more where we stand with him. What would bother me would be if the response from the Alternative Community would be similar to that of Charlie Veitch.
It does worry me when prominent Truthers change their perspectives. Sometimes it's very sudden and shows little analytical thought. I trust Marcus to make an honest judgement. If he has swapped benches I may still disagree with him, but I'll do so respectfully. Let us know what you find out as soon as you can.
Thanks.
Ben
This report by Mary Bennett, co-author of "Dark Moon", was there and has written a report:
http://www.aulis.com/allen_bis.htm
Here's a photocopy of a Skeptic report into Marcus' speech at the BIS. It's interesting how the two sides interpret the same event so differently. Here we have Marcus faltering desperately in his attempt to explain his theories to the BIS audience. In the end he has a road to Damascus-style conversion. Mary Bennett's report, which was based on Marcus' own testimony, paints a very different picture!
See: http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v239/Gadfium/Forum%20Uploads/19e6ac0e.jpg
The film of the debate is now on YouTube. See: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tf1n2rbF_mc
Marcus Allen is a former Scientologist. His employer Duncan
Roads is a Scientologist. Roads'
'hero' Muammar Gaddafi was a
sympathiser of Scientology,
Roads' associates Peter Sawyer and
Joe Vialls walked, quacked and
conspired like Scientologists, Roads' wife Catherine Maria Simons is a Scientologist, Roads'
associate David Icke is a Scientologist sympathiser, Roads'
associates in the Australian
anti government 'Freedom Movement'
were tools of Scientology and socialist Libya, Roads' associates
in the American Freedom Movement
Mark Koernke and Timothy McVeigh
were tools of Scientology and
socialist Libya, Roads' 'New Age'
associates are tools of Scientology and Roads' associates
in the "Jewish NWO" conspiracy
industry are also sympathisers of
Scientology and socialist Libya.
Who knew?
Maybe that was a conspiracy too.
I HATE NEXUS.
Look's like anyone can leave a comment...It would be to bad, at the very least something is fishy about the hole Apollo business. But if He got too much pressure then...survival. Strange that the debate tube NOT available??? I can't agree that THEE Moon is anything We think, a satellite "moon" closer and dark is the culprid too are mistake. Anyway I dont beleive WE have been there neither, for sure there is fackery in the film. Wish Him well.
I saw a talk show the other day with this guy, i thought he seemed reasonable with his suggestions and i was kind of buying into his ideas. I think after a while you have to give up searching a look to prove it wrong as the facts will always be, you cannot test or view any of it for yourself, heres 32000 images . . yes but i took none of them! Heres all the gear we went to the moon in. Yes but i wasnt there, i have only 1 source of this information and i dont know anyone who was there at the time. We have left things behind. Yes. so did the russians but again, i cannot go and look at this without a feed from the same organisations that went there.
Its a really interesting subject this but its totally futile. There was one controller. they reportedly lost most of the data, most people are so old and or have died. Im pretty sure for stability, even if i was proved to be a hoax by another country, its in everyones best interest to keep it quiet, America will have totally valid counter reasons why they had to fake it, if they did that is. Id like to hope not but i really REALLY hate this sort of stuff where there is too much counter evidence to going then there is to actually going and noone can actually FULLY verify the data. When they say other people traced the modules. Yes, fact, did they trace life signs. did they have a telescope confirming feet on the moon. Noone has that. I want this subject fully laid to rest once and for all. Please it drives me crazy that there is even a doubt!
Recent interview...
http://serve.castfire.com/audio/3269388/3269388_2017-01-10-144128.128.mp3
Is the 1958 Telepathic Army Project in the United States a Hoax ?
Stargate Project that ended in 1995
Satellite Project ended 2015
Is this being covered up too!
I believe these are real and should be investigated!
As to why this person is being kept secret!
What do you think?
Tamera
United States-Texas
Hi Tamara.
Thanks for your comment. I don't know the answer.
A lot has happened since this article. See my recent HPANWO Radio and HPANWO TV interviews with Marcus.
All the best.
Ben
From the head of NASA to all the Astranaughts, they’re all in the Masonic brotherhood. What is the most secretive organisation?
Buzz Aldrin is. Not sure about the others.
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