UFO Hearing September 2025

 

I almost didn't bother watching this new US congressional hearing; the reason being the last one was not very good. Since the repeal of the Schumer Amendment for the second time, "SCIF flu" and disinformation in the newspapers it has felt very much like the UFO Disclosure movement has stagnated. I tuned in almost as a token duty. I'm pleased to say I was wrong. The format was very similar; this time Anna Paullina Luna was the chairwoman and on the committee were other familiar faces like Representatives Tim Burchett, Nancy Mace, Jared Moskowitz, Lauren Boebert and Andy Ogles; along with some newcomers to the world of UAP hearings. I was very encouraged to see that Eric Burlison was there. The US representative for the seventh congressional district of Missouri has shown himself to be the "basest" of all the politicians in the UAP transparency process. There was a rumour that an elected political official was going to speak at Contact in the Desert this year. The arrangements were made in secret and it was to be announced as a surprise, possibly for expediency and not the amusement of the delegation. This would have been only the second time a sitting statesman had ever spoken at a UFO conference; the first being Sir Eric Gairy, prime minister of Grenada, speaking at the First International Congress on the UFO Phenomenon in Acapulco, Mexico in 1977, see: https://hpanwo-voice.blogspot.com/2025/07/ufo-truth-magazine-issue-73.html. The politician never showed up in the end, but I have it on good authority from inside sources that it was Eric Burlison. Another prominent figure in conspiratorial circles present at the hearing was the Alaskan Nick Begich III. He is the son of Nick Begich Jr who co-authored the classic book Angels Don't Play This HAARP. His grandfather Nick Begich Sr vanished in mysterious circumstances, see: https://hpanwo-radio.blogspot.com/2024/12/third-rail-radio-programme-193.html. There were five witnesses this time, all people who were making their hearing debut. The only one I was very familiar with was George Knapp, the veteran UFOlogical investigator and journalist. Three of the others I only knew from single interviews on News Nation and the last one was somebody I'd never heard of before, Joe Spielberger. He runs an organization called the Project on Government Oversight or "POGO" for short. He is a policy councillor who believes whistleblowers, far from being criminal renegades, are actually doing something very patriotic; in fact they play a vital role in maintaining the democratic political order. They should therefore be defended by the system. Jeffrey Nuccetelli has a name that made me hope security had checked his violin case at the door, but it turns out he is a witness to multiple UFO incidents. When he was in the US Air Force he was at Vandenburg AFB in 2003 when the famous "red square" appeared. Some of his fellow airmen and Boeing contractors also saw it, see: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mf4nkEe5oVU. This case was mentioned by Lue Elizondo in a previous hearing, but Nuccetelli is a firsthand witness only referred to anonymously before. Chief Alexandro Wiggins is the first hearing witness to be in active military service; he is also of a US Navy "enlisted" non-commissioned rank. He was on his ship, USS Jackson, the same class of ship as the previously mentioned USS Omaha, in 2023 when he detected an object with all of the five observables. He advocates for a system for serving members of the military to report UAP without getting into trouble. The fact that George Knapp was speaking was a truly historic moment. Really he should have been called to testify on this subject forty years ago. He brings up Bob Lazar, despite the controversy. He stands by his original assessment of Lazar's claims. He also believes Bob Bigelow has direct proof of ET existence because he worked with Lockheed Martin on a retrieved craft. He has information that the Soviet Union, and later the Russian Federation, has gathered a huge amount of UFO evidence which included back-engineering. He also played the video submitted by Chief Wiggins that shows a tic-tac like object recorded on a camera from his ship. George was followed by Dylan Borland, an intelligence specialist from the USAF who left in 2013 to work for BAE Systems, the defence contractor. Borland claims he has been persecuted for his investigations into UFO's and so has become a whistleblower, the very kind skeptics and backslappers claim does not exist and were made up by Elizondo and Knapp etc. The skeptics and backslappers are trivializing this issue beyond belief; this is a very serious matter because Dylan says he potentially risks the death penalty for his activities. He is very keen to divulge as much as he can in a SCIF.
 
Chairwoman Luna began by calling Dr Sean Kirkpatrick a "liar" in as many words. This is very honest and daring of her; and frankly it's about time somebody said it. He was absolutely useless and untrustworthy when Dylan Borland approached him. Mrs Luna relates how she herself was harassed as a result of her position, having her own security clearance reviewed. Some of the witnesses she was trying to persuade to testify pulled out because of alleged death threats. She also reported that the CIA said that the secrecy levels over UFO's were decided by "another agency"; I wonder which one. She received a huge round of applause when she said she was going to issue a subpoena to the former director of AARO. (Others should be too, like Susan Gough and Glen Gaffney.) This will force him to explain himself to the representatives. Generally there was a lot of applause from the public gallery when a committee member said something good or the witnesses delivered their testimony, as if this were a theatre show. Nancy Mace brought up the subject of the possibility that UFO's themselves are a psyop; and the witnesses are more open-minded about that conundrum than I am, see: https://hpanwo-voice.blogspot.com/2024/09/area-51-by-annie-jacobsen.html. Joe Spielberger said that overclassification was an obstacle to defending the United States during the 9/11 attacks; obviously I have a very different view, see: https://hpanwo.blogspot.com/2021/09/911-portal.html. George Knapp talked very dramatically about UFO's interfering with nuclear weapons when Tim Burchett asked him about his adventures behind the Iron Curtain. The most fascinating part of the hearing was the launch of a new video. This one is a clip of aircraft gun camera footage pointing down at the sea, similar to the "go fast". It was much more recent, from just last year, and was taken from a drone off the coast of Yemen. It shows a spherical or oval shaped object flying along on a steady course and speed. It is struck by another object, said to be a Hellfire missile from a second drone. The object flinches slightly from the impact, but then continues flying along as it was before. The missile warhead does not detonate and it flies off away from the object to exit the frame. Two smaller objects break off the original one and fly alongside it, matching its track. There is then a second clip of what it said to be the same object from a longer range; it looks more like a tic-tac. I find it hard to believe Mick West will find a way to call this one a plastic bag. What's most interesting is that this video and the first one tabled by Chief Wiggins must have some level of official sanction. This means at least a part of the establishment is still pro-freedom, despite the recent disappointments, see: https://hpanwo-voice.blogspot.com/2025/07/wot-no-list.html. Source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LBKRr5OvF6E. I could hardly believe that the BBC covered this in a live report. That has never happened before, see: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/c1wgqdnxvr5t. This hearing was in a different chamber to the last two; a bigger one. It looked more like the one where the Senate questioned Scott Bray and Donald Moultrie a couple of years ago. I was afraid ET Disclosure had retreated to become once more a distant dream. I'm not often proved wrong this much and I'm not often this happy to be so. The complete fallout from the latest hearing is still in the process of breaking. Commentary posts are still appearing from UFOlogical social media. It may be a few days, weeks or even months before we know for sure where we stand, but it must be an improvement on where we were. Wherever that stance settles, you will be sure to read all about it first on HPANWO Voice.
See here for background: https://hpanwo.blogspot.com/2020/02/ufo-disclosure-portal.html.