This is kind of a follow-up to this recent article, see: https://hpanwo-voice.blogspot.com/2025/07/3iatlas-new-info.html.
One of the questions often asked of me by skeptics is: "Why do you think
these conspiracy theories are true when thousands of people would have to
collude in order to make them work?" My answer is twofold; firstly there's
a limit on numbers, which is often why they don't always work, see: https://hpanwo-voice.blogspot.com/2016/11/conspiracy-theories-mathematically.html.
However, I myself am sometimes dismayed at how high that threshold is in the
instances where conspiracy theories are proven true; with the grooming gangs
for example, or the hospital MRSA scandal. We've seen that the people involved
employ all kinds of weird psychological fire escapes to avoid blame. "I
was just doing my job!" "We'd all heard rumours, but..." etc. At
the end of the day we are a social species with herding instincts and none of
want to be, to quote the Japanese maxim, the nail that stands out above the
rest because that's always the first one to get hammered. And for astronomers
who do stand out, there are always some giant mallets ready to whack them.
Prof. Avi Loeb has been attacked by somebody online who calls himself "Professor
Dave" who may or may not be a real professor; but even if he is that
doesn't stop him being an ignorant troll. His forty-five minute video is almost
devoid of rational argument and replaces it with a tirade of mindless rhetoric,
interspersed with rhetoric from "proper" scientists. Just reading the
description box content is enough for you to guess what the video is like: "Avi Loeb is a Harvard astronomer
turned pseudoscience-peddling fraud. Since 2017 he's been spewing horseshit
about how everything is aliens when it definitely isn't, just to sell a bunch
of books to credulous laypeople. Predictably, when the scientific community
politely pushes back on his bullshit, he throws a toddler tantrum." Do
those sound like the words of a rational person? Source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4nYXIeZh_bw.
(Dave's judgement of Ashton Forbes is just as bad, see: https://hpanwo.blogspot.com/2024/05/mh370-portal.html.)
Amazingly, skeptics will watch this and claim it "comprehensively
discredits" whoever the subject of the post is. Dave castigates Avi for
writing two books... as if it now a crime to write books! The reason Avi has become
so respected by the general public is because we are genuinely interested in
the subject matter, the prospect of life beyond our home planet. This is why
his books have been so popular, not because they contain lies.
Dave also abuses Avi over an irrelevant subject, the
conflict in the Holy Land , calling him a "Zionist!"
Unlike most people, I don't take a partisan stance over this issue; I feel
sorry for everybody on both sides caught up in this war, see: https://hpanwo-tv.blogspot.com/2023/10/israel-war-livestream.html.
What is a fact though is that on October
the 7th 2023 hundreds of innocent Israelis were brutally murdered
and hundreds more taken captive; some are still prisoners. As a fellow Israeli,
how do you expect Avi to feel about that? If his words are so awful, what kind
of sentiments do you think it is appropriate for him to express in this
situation? "Professor Dave" is not the only social media small town
science pundit to harangue Avi Loeb. Do you now understand why so many of Avi's
colleagues just keep their heads down and nod along with the prevailing
viewpoint? They don't want that kind of aggravation. If the generally accepted
consensus is aliens don't exist then they don't exist and 3I/ATLAS is still a
comet, even if it's a bunch of bananas. It takes a special kind of person with
a lot of courage to resist conformity. It's a pity we humans are so often our
own worst enemy. Who needs government agencies to keep secrets when we are so
bloody eager to keep our own wayward elements in line? It reminds me of when
David Icke said "We have 'out-sheeped'
the sheep. We have dispensed with the sheepdog. We police each other!"
Source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RVww2MrsHuQ.
I can only hope Avi's principled stance acts as a good example for others.
Here's his blog: https://avi-loeb.medium.com.
Avi Loeb is not alone; there is another pioneer at large, Dr Beatriz
Villarroel. She and her team have made a discovery on a similar game changing
scale which I'll say more about another time; but here's an introduction: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zvv7kwtxQZ8.
No doubt "Professor Dave" and his fellow internet bullies are
preparing a character assassination for her too.
See here for background: https://hpanwo.blogspot.com/2025/07/interstellar-object-portal.html.
And: https://hpanwo.blogspot.com/2021/08/skeptics-portal.html.
See here for background: https://hpanwo.blogspot.com/2025/07/interstellar-object-portal.html.
And: https://hpanwo.blogspot.com/2021/08/skeptics-portal.html.
7 comments:
Avi Loeb is a genuine scientist who does real, evidenced and peer reviewed work. By no means can he be described as a fraud.
At the same time it is important to recognise that he is an establishment figure who has worked for the military and intelligence services in the past and has connections at the heart of the Deep State. It would be foolish not to recognise that his choice of research topic is likely to be related to a state agenda. They need credible science to underpin their next psyop.
MT, that is a possibility that we should always bear in mind and be cautious of. However, we're better off treading a thin line between excessive naivete and excessive cynicism instead of a "paradigm of prevention", ie: always assume the worst just in case. If this is a genuine eventuality of aliens then it's connected to Disclosure and is therefore an opportunity we cannot afford to miss.
I've never subscribed to the idea of Disclosure au Steve Bassett as an end in itself. In effect you are begging to be informed by the state and allowing it to set the agenda. There are both good and bad possible outcomes that could follow from it depending on a range of factors. As they so often do, they could offer a mixture of truth and lies, telling the truth about the existence of NHI but lying about its essential nature.
Right now I think assuming the worst would mean assuming a real alien invasion. Even at this stage I'm on the look out for things indicating it's fake. The only evidence I have is the Galileo Project website which has 'military industrial complex' written all over it. But that won't stop me from also following the fascinating and groundbreaking science the project is doing which is interesting in and of itself.
This time Anonymous IS me!
I think I'd have guessed, MT! I have actually come round to the idea that Steve Bassett's model of D is feasible. I do diverge from Steve in several crucial factors though. He is not concerned about the fake alien invasion scenario while I am. If you read Roswell Rising you'll see the story has exactly that kind of deception take place. Steve also does not believe D or UFO's can be connected to other issues like the C*v*d lockdowns or 9/11. He also won't addess negative ET issues like the mutilations.
Avi Loeb is becoming contrarian of astronomy. Avi Loeb doesn't say anything inaccurate but he makes alternative suggestions that 'could' be correct but are highly unlikely to be when other established science has a perfectly reasonable provable explanation. He does this with intention to garner interest from 'fringe' science such as the UFO community in the same way a salesperson does in a pitch for a new movie, book, product or whatever. Avi Loeb's start to this was when he was working on trying to establish grant funding for research into solar sail technology coincidently Oumuamua appeared so he made the 'suggestion' was it a solar sail for a reason. It wasn't and couldn't have been but the suggestion was planted for people to take an interest in him, his research etc. He has subsequently found this is a good ploy. I will refrain from saying 'grift' as it's not exactly the same but that doesn't make him wrong, or a poor scientist but it may to other academics and researchers and their institutions be unethical in potentially/intentionally misleading the public whilst simultaneously attempting to secure research funding (which may come from public funding). I will caveat this and say I have nothing against Avi Loeb and his published science because to date he hasn't said anything obviously false , faked data or unable to provide evidence unlike many in the UFO community. However I do object to individuals giving alternative explanations for something to deliberately obfuscate facts as that damages scientific method.
I don't think he does that either though, Anon. He is simply presenting a possibility that other scientists are reluctant to for whatever reason. He gains from it in book sales, yes; but then so does Richard Dawkins!
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