I almost didn't bother watching this new
US
congressional hearing; the reason being the last one was not very good. Since
the repeal of the Schumer Amendment for the second time, "SCIF flu"
and disinformation in the newspapers it has felt very much like the UFO Disclosure
movement has stagnated. I tuned in almost as a token duty. I'm pleased to say I
was wrong. The format was very similar; this time Anna Paullina Luna was the
chairwoman and on the committee were other familiar faces like Representatives
Tim Burchett, Nancy Mace, Jared Moskowitz, Lauren Boebert and Andy Ogles; along
with some newcomers to the world of UAP hearings. I was very encouraged to see that Eric
Burlison was there. The
US
representative for the seventh congressional district of Missouri has shown
himself to be the "basest" of all the politicians in the UAP
transparency process. There was a rumour that an elected political official was
going to speak at Contact in the Desert this year. The arrangements were made
in secret and it was to be announced as a surprise, possibly for expediency and
not the amusement of the delegation. This would have been only the second time
a sitting statesman had ever spoken at a UFO conference; the first being Sir
Eric Gairy, prime minister of
Grenada,
speaking at the First International Congress on the UFO Phenomenon in
Acapulco,
Mexico in 1977, see:
https://hpanwo-voice.blogspot.com/2025/07/ufo-truth-magazine-issue-73.html.
The politician never showed up in the end, but I have it on good authority from
inside sources that it was Eric Burlison. Another prominent figure in
conspiratorial circles present at the hearing was the Alaskan Nick Begich III.
He is the son of Nick Begich Jr who co-authored the classic book
Angels Don't Play This HAARP. His
grandfather Nick Begich Sr vanished in mysterious circumstances, see:
https://hpanwo-radio.blogspot.com/2024/12/third-rail-radio-programme-193.html.
There were five witnesses this time, all people who were making their hearing
debut. The only one I was very familiar with was George Knapp, the veteran
UFOlogical investigator and journalist. Three of the others I only knew from
single interviews on News Nation and the last one was somebody I'd never heard
of before, Joe Spielberger. He runs an organization called the Project on
Government Oversight or "POGO" for short. He is a policy councillor
who believes whistleblowers, far from being criminal renegades, are actually
doing something very patriotic; in fact they play a vital role in maintaining
the democratic political order. They should therefore be defended by the
system. Jeffrey Nuccetelli has a name that made me hope security had checked
his violin case at the door, but it turns out he is a witness to multiple UFO
incidents. When he was in the US Air Force he was at Vandenburg AFB in 2003
when the famous "red square" appeared. Some of his fellow airmen and
Boeing contractors also saw it, see:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mf4nkEe5oVU.
This case was mentioned by Lue Elizondo in a previous hearing, but Nuccetelli is
a firsthand witness only referred to anonymously before. Chief Alexandro
Wiggins is the first hearing witness to be in active military service; he is
also of a US Navy "enlisted" non-commissioned rank. He was on his
ship, USS
Jackson, the same class of
ship as the previously mentioned USS
Omaha,
in 2023 when he detected an object with all of the five observables. He
advocates for a system for serving members of the military to report UAP
without getting into trouble. The fact that George Knapp was speaking was a
truly historic moment. Really he should have been called to testify on this
subject forty years ago. He brings up Bob Lazar, despite the controversy. He
stands by his original assessment of Lazar's claims. He also believes Bob
Bigelow has direct proof of ET existence because he worked with Lockheed Martin
on a retrieved craft. He has information that the
Soviet Union,
and later the
Russian Federation,
has gathered a huge amount of UFO evidence which included back-engineering. He
also played the video submitted by Chief Wiggins that shows a tic-tac like
object recorded on a camera from his ship. George was followed by Dylan Borland,
an intelligence specialist from the USAF who left in 2013 to work for BAE
Systems, the defence contractor. Borland claims he has been persecuted for his
investigations into UFO's and so has become a whistleblower, the very kind
skeptics and backslappers claim does not exist and were made up by Elizondo and
Knapp etc. The skeptics and backslappers are trivializing this issue beyond
belief; this is a very serious matter because Dylan says he potentially risks
the death penalty for his activities. He is very keen to divulge as much as he
can in a SCIF.
Chairwoman Luna began by calling Dr Sean Kirkpatrick a
"liar" in as many words. This is very honest and daring of her; and frankly
it's about time somebody said it. He was absolutely useless and untrustworthy
when Dylan Borland approached him. Mrs Luna relates how she herself was
harassed as a result of her position, having her own security clearance
reviewed. Some of the witnesses she was trying to persuade to testify pulled
out because of alleged death threats. She also reported that the CIA said that
the secrecy levels over UFO's were decided by "another agency"; I
wonder which one. She received a huge round of applause when she said she was
going to issue a subpoena to the former director of AARO. (Others should be too,
like Susan Gough and Glen Gaffney.) This will force him to explain himself to
the representatives. Generally there was a lot of applause from the public
gallery when a committee member said something good or the witnesses delivered
their testimony, as if this were a theatre show. Nancy Mace brought up the
subject of the possibility that UFO's themselves are a psyop; and the witnesses
are more open-minded about that conundrum than I am, see:
https://hpanwo-voice.blogspot.com/2024/09/area-51-by-annie-jacobsen.html.
Joe Spielberger said that overclassification was an obstacle to defending the
United
States during the 9/11 attacks; obviously I
have a very different view, see:
https://hpanwo.blogspot.com/2021/09/911-portal.html.
George Knapp talked very dramatically about UFO's interfering with nuclear
weapons when Tim Burchett asked him about his adventures behind the Iron
Curtain. The most fascinating part of the hearing was the launch of a new
video. This one is a clip of aircraft gun camera footage pointing down at the
sea, similar to the "go fast". It was much more recent, from just
last year, and was taken from a drone off the coast of Yemen.
It shows a spherical or oval shaped object flying along on a steady course and
speed. It is struck by another object, said to be a Hellfire missile from a
second drone. The object flinches slightly from the impact, but then continues
flying along as it was before. The missile warhead does not detonate and it
flies off away from the object to exit the frame. Two smaller objects break off
the original one and fly alongside it, matching its track. There is then a
second clip of what it said to be the same object from a longer range; it looks
more like a tic-tac. I find it hard to believe Mick West will find a way to
call this one a plastic bag. What's most interesting is that this video and the
first one tabled by Chief Wiggins must have some level of official sanction.
This means at least a part of the establishment is still pro-freedom, despite
the recent disappointments, see:
https://hpanwo-voice.blogspot.com/2025/07/wot-no-list.html.
Source:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LBKRr5OvF6E.
I could hardly believe that the BBC covered this in a live report. That has
never happened before, see:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/c1wgqdnxvr5t.
This hearing was in a different chamber to the last two; a bigger one. It
looked more like the one where the Senate questioned Scott Bray and Donald
Moultrie a couple of years ago. I was afraid ET Disclosure had retreated to
become once more a distant dream. I'm not often proved wrong this much and I'm
not often this happy to be so. The complete fallout from the latest hearing is
still in the process of breaking. Commentary posts are still appearing from
UFOlogical social media. It may be a few days, weeks or even months before we
know for sure where we stand, but it must be an improvement on where we were.
Wherever that stance settles, you will be sure to read all about it first on
HPANWO Voice.
See here for
background: https://hpanwo.blogspot.com/2020/02/ufo-disclosure-portal.html.
