See here for day one:
https://hpanwo-voice.blogspot.com/2024/07/rdh-trial.html.
I got up atfive AM
for a second time to catch the coach to London .
Luckily there is a very good regular coach service between Oxford
and London precluding the need for
accommodation there which is very expensive. As I've said earlier, I always
feel very uncomfortable entering the Royal Courts of Justice; that Dracula's
castle in the heart of the capital gives me the creeps, and I'm not even the
one in trouble... yet. Today consisted entirely of a series of three cross-examinations
by Mr Oakley, Richard D Hall's barrister. The first was with somebody I will
call "Miss B"; she is Eve's educational carer. She said she became
aware of Richard's presence more recently than the others; it was when the Panorama documentary was broadcast in
October 2022. Eve herself first heard about Richard the previous summer, when the
family decided to nickname him "Stalkerman". They believed that
Richard was "making money!" from conspiracy theories and that this is
"unfair!" (In the portal link below I explain why that very
unoriginal accusation is false.) Eve's access to the internet is closely
supervised, seeing as she is a mentally and physically handicapped young adult.
Mr Oakley accepted that the presence of cameras and the media at Eve's college
was upsetting for her, but that was nothing to do with Richard. Eve's parents
did not try to reassure Eve that "Stalkerman" was not going to come
back and "get her!"; why not? Eve apparently is generally very
nervous and needs constant comforting. The second witness of the day was a
"Mr Ll". He is a friend of Martin Hibbert and he claims to have heard
of Richard as long ago as 2018. He told Martin about it, but the latter dismissed
it as unimportant. Mr Ll says that Mr Hibbert is a very proud man who masks his
feelings. Mr Oakley repeated the point he had made to Mr Hibbert and Miss B,
that any anxiety and trauma the family was experiencing, was not Richard's
fault; it was due to the general aftermath of the event in Manchester .
Richard was pretty much a transient figure in their lives until the beginning
of Mr Hibbert's media career. Mr Ll said that "denial of their
story", meaning the official story of how the Manchester Arena incident
had taken place, had harmed Eve and Martin. This is another very hackneyed
falsehood that is wheeled out whenever some disaster occurs, see: https://hpanwo-bb.blogspot.com/2009/01/show-some-respect.html.
Mr Ll also claimed Richard had made an "implied threat" to a
paramedic in one of his videos when in fact all Richard did was make his
viewers aware that he had more information about that man that he might release
at a later date. Mr Ll echoed one of the points made by Mr Hibbert, that he
felt intimidated in the courtroom by the presence of... wait for it!... us! Richard's supporters, people like me.
It is true that dozens of us have turned up to act as observers/McKenzie
friends whenever Richard is in court; but, as far as I have seen, we have
behaved ourselves impeccably. I have never approached Martin Hibbert on any of
the occasions I have been with him in the Royal Courts of Justice. I believe none
of us would be as stupid and counterproductive as to behave in a hostile manner
towards him. In fact, at one time today I was passing through a door at the
same time as Mr Ll and held it open for him. He said: "No, after
you." I passed through the door and replied: "Thank you." We have
a right to be there under the principle of open justice.
I got up at
The most interesting witness was the last one of the day,
"Miss G" who is Eve's mother and Martin Hibbert's ex-partner. She was
not present in the courtroom and called in via CVP, which is similar to Skype
or Zoom. Mr Oakley asked her how she felt about Eve's father's media presence;
his TV and radio interviews and the new book he has just published. She
shrugged and said it was his business seeing as they are separated and he is an
adult. She trusts him and doesn't believe Eve could be harmed by the publicity.
Like Mr Hibbert, Miss G is uncertain about the details of Richard D Hall's
influence on their lives. Like the others, she first heard about him from Martin's
discussions with her in mid-2021 and had no previous knowledge of him. She has
only watched one of his videos and read a very short passage from his book.
Richard's barrister then challenged her with many of the same points he had
made to Mr Hibbert. Why is this a problem when Richard only approached their
home on one occasion almost two years previously? Why had they never reported
Richard to the police on any other occasion apart from summer of 2021? Did she
know that Richard had stayed on a public highway and had not trespassed on her
property? Miss G then contradicts Miss B by saying that she regularly informs
her daughter about online content related to Richard, such as showing her Marianna
Spring 's TV documentary. She allows
Eve to use the internet unsupervised, but says her daughter only watches music
videos when left to her own devices. She says that Eve is still scared of
Richard, but how does she know so much about him? Again, it seems that it is
those around her who are actively keeping Richard fresh in her mind. Why don't
they reassure her that he has gone and will never come back? Then something
incredible was revealed, it turns out that Richard had had communication with
the Hibbert's solicitor long before the harassment lawsuit against him had been
initiated. The law firm had sent Richard what is effectively a cease-and-desist
notice and Richard had replied that he was willing to remove some of the
material that had been published by Mr Hibbert that he had reproduced, which he
is not obliged to under established journalistic practice; if the family would
accept that he had done nothing wrong. Miss G replied in a similar vein to her
ex; she did not know this correspondence had taken place. That is
extraordinary. I, personally, would be incensed if any solicitor acting for me
tried to make secret negotiations with another party while keeping me in the
dark. Somebody is lying here; either the family or their lawyers. Either way,
this is a very weird situation. Of course, if this exchange between Richard and
the solicitors had been made in the open, then that changes everything. It
suggests a desire on Richard's part to deescalate and close the case amicably.
The trial continues.
See here for day three: https://hpanwo-voice.blogspot.com/2024/07/rdh-trial-day-three.html.
See here for background: https://hpanwo-voice.blogspot.com/2024/07/rdh-lawsuit-mini-portal.html.
See here for day three: https://hpanwo-voice.blogspot.com/2024/07/rdh-trial-day-three.html.
See here for background: https://hpanwo-voice.blogspot.com/2024/07/rdh-lawsuit-mini-portal.html.
13 comments:
Ben, many thanks indeed for attending court and reporting back for us. It is much appreciated.
Thanks, Fran. :-) There will be more tomorrow.
I have only just found this group and joined. Thank you for keeping us updated here in Australia. I wish Richard all the best
Well written and concise, Ben. Thanks again for reporting on this.
Glow Tone
Thank you again for this insightful report. It gives a very clear picture of what's going on.
Cant't thank you enough. Very good thorough report. So helpful. Personally I've been crying, all this upsetting me so much. Richard so upright, honest, polite, thoughtful, kind. Thank you.
Cant't thank you enough. Very good thorough report. So helpful. Personally I've been crying, all this upsetting me so much. Richard so upright, honest, polite, thoughtful, kind. Thank you.
Thank you Ben for the update,although I was there with you that air conditioning unit made it hard to here at times.
Thanks, Anon, Lelsey, Ken and GM. I've just posted Day Three.
Thanks for giving us daily updates of the court case, here's hoping Richard wins the case
You're welcome, Maureen. Fingers crossed. X
Is their any up date on the trial as haven’t heard anything since the trial.
Hi Anon. A verdict should be announced some time this month. I've heard nothing so far. Obviously they'll inform Richard first.
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