See here for day two:
https://hpanwo-voice.blogspot.com/2024/07/rdh-trial-day-2.html.
At the start of the third day of the trial of Richard D
Hall, everybody felt that Richard was way ahead. The defence had declared with
a very high innings, but now it was the prosecution's turn to come out to the
crease and bat. Mr Price began by calling Richard as a witness. The first two
hours of his cross examination was baffling. He started doing what is similar
to a skeptics' debunking of Richard's theories on the Manchester Arena; not
unlike the recent one Neil Sanders has done (unsuccessfully in my view). This
was very odd because it seems to run contrary to the summary judgement
forbidding any discussion of evidence. I had the feeling there was some
strategy involved that I, not being a lawyer, could not understand; and I was
right, but I'll come to that later. Mr Price kept reminding Richard of his
responsibilities as a journalist, quoting OfCom's rules relating to
"fairness" and the welfare of contributors. He claimed that the
Hibberts had been featured so much in Richard's filmography that they counted
as contributors and not just subjects. I doubt that, but I'm sure it can be
clarified. Mr Price appealed to emotion again, returning to the
"cruelty" and "hurt" Richard's actions had caused,
allegedly. How the final photo of Martin and Eve in the restaurant before going
to the Arena was "very precious" to them. "What about
compassion?" he implored. As I've said before, such guilt tripping is not
uncommon and I think it has no place in a rational discussion, see: https://hpanwo-bb.blogspot.com/2009/01/show-some-respect.html.
Mr Price kept pushing Richard to explore the hypothetical possibility of
whether the Hibberts' story could be true. "Why don't you just believe
them, Mr Hall?" he said. "Surely you can understand why, if their
story is true, they would be so upset?" "It's a very serious matter
because you're accusing them of a crime!" He then asked Richard if he had
done a risk assessment before producing his programmes, as if Richplanet TV is
some kind of building site. He quoted numerous media regulations and how journalistic
freedom and the public interest have to be weighed up against privacy and
social violation etc. Two questions I would like to have asked him which never
came up in the trial were: How does Marianna
Spring 's invasion of Richard's
market stall and attacks on his reputation weigh up in that rulebook? And: In
his view, how does one legitimately
portray Martin Hibbert and his family with anything other than unquestioning
adulation according to his standards?
I might add, as a KC Mr Price lacks the eloquence and conviction of Mr Oakley.
It's just as well he is not on Richard's side.
Richard replied calmly, choosing all his words carefully;
but he remained defiant. He kept returning to the point that the evidence was
what mattered and that whether the witness' testimony matched the facts was relevant.
In his view, there are questions that people have a right to ask and should be
asking; and I agree with him. He brought up examples of real life false flag
and staged terror like Operation Gladio and the Baghdad
bombing in which actors pretended to be dead bodies. He described the cagey and
contradictory attitude of the public inquiry. It was only later on in his
summing up that I realized the game Mr Price was playing with Richard; he was
testing him. He claimed that Richard had the "arrogant" idea that he
had no need to balance his journalistic rights to free speech with his duties
of protection towards witnesses and subjects. However, if Richard had answered
differently, for example saying: "Yes, if it turned out Martin and Eve
were telling the truth then I would have to withdraw my books and films and
apologize to them." then he would be lured away from his central argument,
that he questioned the truth of their statements in the first place. This would
lead to him to being trapped in an infinite paradoxical loop, saying that
despite his doubts about their honesty, they might be honest; and therefore he
would not have been doing this research in the first place which made him
question that etc. Mr Price stated as fact that Richard's theories were
"baseless"; I wonder why he used that word. I was waiting for him to
say "egregious harm" and "trust the science", but he is not
quite that corny. It was only just before the lunch break that Mr Price briefly
brought up what I thought was the core of the Hibbert's grievance against
Richard, his filming outside Eve's house. He did not successfully counter the
points made by the defence though, in my view. He asked Richard why he thought
he had got it right about Manchester
when all the judges, the police, the emergency services and the city council
etc all got it wrong, as if reality is some kind of election. He accused
Richard of confessing that what he does is harmful because he shields his own
nine year old son from what is going on while castigating the Hibberts for not
doing so with Eve, but that is not an accurate analogy. Richard is shielding
his son from his own court case; a very different affair. As with the Alex
Jones trial, Mr Price presented Richard with some examples of recent social
media posts about this trial, as if Richard is directly responsible for the
behaviour of others, see: https://hpanwo-tv.blogspot.com/2022/08/alex-jones-in-court.html.
He did not include the HPANWO Voice posts in this series, probably because I am
too reasonable for his purposes. There is only one day left in the schedule of
this trial and I expect it will be mostly Mr Oakley summing up. I will be there
tomorrow for that.
See here for day four: https://hpanwo-voice.blogspot.com/2024/07/rdh-trial-day-four.html.
See here for day four: https://hpanwo-voice.blogspot.com/2024/07/rdh-trial-day-four.html.
See here for
background: https://hpanwo-voice.blogspot.com/2024/07/rdh-lawsuit-mini-portal.html.
In a pluralistic society, if you publish a book and build a presence in the media and social media you can reasonably expect your message to be questioned and/or refuted by at least a small number of people. Martin Hibbert seems to be seeking a legal guarantee that protects him from any such questioning or refutation on the grounds that he and his daughter are likely to find it upsetting. The truth or otherwise of his message is neither here nor there.
ReplyDeleteIt seems the prosecution is trying to create or define a whole new class of notionally vulnerable people who are thought to be too sensitive to face criticism of any kind and so are legally protected from it. That is indeed the first step towards a society where there is compulsory adulation of selected individuals and groups. Further down that road you end up with the grotesque situation where all social discourse takes the form of postured seal-clapping of the kind seen in North Korea or Stalin's USSR.
Brilliant! :0)
ReplyDeleteThanks for keeping us posted
ReplyDeleteBen, thanks once again for covering this.
ReplyDeleteI have just found a post-trial statement from Hibbert on his solicitor's website... He says: "I will now liaise with my legal team, my media contacts, politicians and decision makers about Eve’s Law: a new law to better protect survivors of tragedies from harassment and conspiracy theories. Watch this space….!"
Very true, GM.
ReplyDeleteYou're welcome, Anon.
ReplyDeleteHi Fran "Eve's Law" Yuck! You know there's trouble when a law is given a sentimental name like that.
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