I'm very sorry to report that Jordan Maxwell has passed
away. He was one of the principle researchers into the occult, Illuminati
symbolism and ritual in everyday life and lost wisdom of the past that existed
in the Truth movement. He was an excellent generalist and I followed him avidly
when I started out on my journey of discovering that the world is not what I
thought it was. Jordan
Hi Ben have you done any in depth research into Russell Joseph Pine?
ReplyDeleteHi M. No. I see he is some kind of economist.
ReplyDeleteRussell Joseph Pine was Jordan Maxwell's real name.
ReplyDeleteA rather unsavoury character to say the least. I guess you havent yet discovered the real Jordan maxwell.
ReplyDeleteNo, The REAL Jordan Maxwell is one only skeptics know about. But you have just educated a woo-woo with just a single post. I'd better condemn him without further question! :-/
ReplyDeleteThe 'official' website for Jordan you have linked to in this article is actually the alleged (by Jordan) scam site opearated by the individuals who also allegedly some years ago stole his work, his copyrights and effectively his identity. There was a court case - I don't know the outcome - which in many ways left him a broken man.
ReplyDeleteJordan in his interviews in recent years always went to great lengths to make it clear that his official website is:
jordanmaxwellshow.com (emphasising the word 'show')
together with a subscription based second site at jordanmaxwellresearch.is
and here he is making it perfectly clear that only these two websites above belong to him:
https://youtu.be/qEEP-cM5mYg
I know all about that. The same scammers have targeted others in a similar way. Typo corrected.
ReplyDeleteI never suggested you condemn anyone. As you said you have never researched Russell Joseph Pine, never mind.
ReplyDeleteDid you see any of the SLS roll out? As we know its quite a beast and when you think Starship is bigger and much more powerful were going to have some great stuff comming.
Did you hear the Russians have stopped lifting for almost everyone? A case of cutting your nose off to spite your face as SpaceX will pick up many if not all those contracts. Its a pitty Soluz may end like this, its time was comming but sad all the same.
Almost everything being done in this war backfires on those doing it. I doubt if Russia will keep that up anymore than the current trade embargo can last forever. The world's economy cannot stop because of a war in eastern Europe. Same with space exploration.
ReplyDeleteThe current trade embargo doesn't have to last forever before Russia is seriously screwed, just as ROSCOSMOS dont have to stop lifting forever before they are, in fact ROSCOSMOS are screwed already. Take the OneWeb contract for example, ROSCOSMOS say they have been paid for the second lauch, they wont complete it and are keeping the money and the satellites. Thats a multi billion dollar contract down the pan and its only one example. SpaceX said thank you very much as did OneWeb who now get a cheaper deal.
ReplyDeleteRussia say they will no longer deliver RD-180 engines to the states, SpaceX say thank you very much, this will not hinder anyone but the Russians themselves. America only bought the RD-180 engines to keep Russian scientists in work so they didn't possibly go to China or North Korea.
What do you think about Christian evangelists being rounded up and put in prisons and mental homes in Russia, what about gay rights?
If they're keeping the money and not doing the launch then they'll get sued. Still it's Space X's gain in the end.
ReplyDeleteIts not if, they have. They wont get sued, how could that possibly happen? It not like they're playing ball is it?
ReplyDeleteWhat do you think about Christian evangelists being rounded up in Russia and put in prisons and mental homes? What about gay rights?
You've repeated the question when I didn't answer it last time. Why do you ask that question? How exactly do you expect me to answer? Are you leading me towards some kind of "Gotcha!"?
ReplyDeleteMusketeer, no doubt you're now going to accuse me of "censorship!" and "running away from an uncomfortable truth!" I will not be publishing the comment you just submitted. I'm well aware of how much you skeptics love these little juvenile and effeminate powerplays. You want to accuse me of doing something bad, but you plan to do it by goading me into a trap, rather than just saying it outright. You are being very manipulative! If you want to make a sensible point in a respectful manner, then go ahead and I will publish it. Otherwise take your bitchy little mind games and try them on somebody else! UNDERSTOOD!?
ReplyDeleteCan I return to Jordan Maxwell please? Any idea of what the actual outcome of his court casw was? As that fake site is still operating, it would appear he lost?
ReplyDeleteI don't have all the details yet, but it's a bit like Royal Adams and his conflict with David Icke.
ReplyDeleteJordan Maxwell AKA Russell Pine was prosecuted for Selling fake international drvers permits, the sale of bogus credit repair sevices and the sale of sham determination programs.
ReplyDeletehttps://www.ftc.gov/sites/default/files/documents/cases/2004/06/040617defaultjudgment.pdf
Https://www.ftc.gov/sites/default/files/documents/cases/2004/06/040617opinion.pdf
However i think your more interested in this case
Maxwell V Dolezal
https://scholar.google.com/scholar_case?case=3601746532539467139
http://www.truthcontrol.com/articles/jordan-maxwell-master-defrauder
https://operationtiretread.com/
https://www.courtlistener.com/opinion/2748011/maxwell-v-dolezal/
Thanks for the information, M. I'll study this in detail. Could be a good test case for my tribunal idea.
ReplyDeleteThanks Musketeer. I haven't gone through the second set of links yet but the first case makes for depressing reading. A fine of over $444,000 (at 2004 value) reflects the seriousness of what must have been a huge scam... this wasn't just a pocket money raising venture. Anyone know when Jordan Maxwell first came on the conspiracy scene? After 2004 by any chance? I hate to say this but it does raise doubts with me about his integrity. I listened to him since 2014 but now, I just don't know...
ReplyDeleteAnon, definitely we should study all available evidence, however do bear in mind the points I made in my recent articles about Linda Moulton Howe and Simon Parkes. We need a tribunal system to sort things like this out.
ReplyDeleteBen did you read the second link http://www.truthcontrol.com/articles/jordan-maxwell-master-defrauder
ReplyDeleteRussell Pine had a habbit of playing the victim and claiming people stole 'his' work when exactly the opposite was actually true.
While im here i would like to address your rather angry post aimed in my direction. All i did was ask what you thought of the treatment being handed out to three minority groups in Russia, the first three that sprang to mind. The reason i asked is because you have voiced a belief that you might be safer in Russia. I thought that reason would be apparent and no explanation would be necessary. No hard feeling felt, i just want to put the record straight.
Sorry Anon, i thought your post... 'Thanks Musketeer. I haven't gone through...' was one of Ben's.
ReplyDeleteI dont know what your tribunal idea is Ben ( are cour cases not enough?) but the evidence in this case is clear. Russell Pine was a con man who lined his pockets by scamming others and he had a habit of claiming to be the victim while the oposite was in fact true.
Ben what did you mean when you posted 'The same scammers have targeted others in a similar way.'?
ReplyDeleteM, Re: "While im here..." I don't think you were just asking what I think. You KNOW what I think about your question because you know I am not a cruel person and so would obviously be opposed to the mistreatment of anybody. Therefore wahy didn't you just make your point? You've seen my publications on the Ukraine situation, let's start from there.
ReplyDeleteRe: "Ben did you read the second link..." No, I've not got as far as that yet.
Re: "Ben what did you mean when..." The fake website looks very similar to others that used to be online trying to destroy the reputations of David Icke, Stewart Swerdlow, Dean Stonier, Brian Desborough, Philip Schneider etc.
M, could you please join the HPANWO Forum? Thanks. Here's the page of interest: https://www.tapatalk.com/groups/hpanwoforum/musketeer-vs-hagbard-celine-t7664.html
ReplyDeleteI'll give it a miss as your post on the forum edits and selectively quotes my post you wont publish here in full.
ReplyDeleteDebating someone who is using admin privilages to their advantage is not something im willing to do.
Suit yourself. I make no apologies for what I did. Hope you find somebody else interesting to debate with. Goodbye.
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