A recent programme on the Fade to Black radio show with Jimmy Church has discussed the
possibility that UFOlogy has been "infiltrated". Jimmy brings on a
number of guests to talk to in a series of separate interviews in the
three-hour broadcast. Unfortunately he deliberately avoids going into specific
details. He refers to a period of time covering "the last three to four
weeks." Individuals, organizations and entire networks have been attacked
on social media. He wonders if there has been some kind of "mind control
activation". However, reading between the lines, he is almost certainly
referring to Peter Robbins' open letter about Larry Warren, see: http://hpanwo-voice.blogspot.co.uk/2017/06/the-larry-warren-controversy-part-16.html,
amongst other things. His guests include the Rendlesham
Forest witness John Burroughs, UFO
author Mike Bara, researcher Micah Hanks and the director of MUFON Jan Harzen.
You'll find the programme disappointing if you're expecting
an in-depth discussion of case studies. However there are some interesting
revelations. From about 47 minutes in Lee Speigel gives some interesting
information concerning government's relationship to the UFO phenomenon. In
particular at 51.22 he tells us how Nick Pope was ordered by the government to
"talk down" UFO reports when they came into the Ministry of Defence's
UFO desk. He used "spin and dirty tricks", apparently a quote from
him. This was, allegedly, in order to cover up the government's own lack of
knowledge and avoid embarrassment in the public eye and save their credibility
rather than to suppress their own secret knowledge of UFO's. Nick's response to this is to say it was just standard MoD policy and there is nothing to be suspicious about. He also sent me a link to an article Lee wrote on the matter: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/08/17/uk-releases-ufo-files_n_927351.html.
Nick Pope has been nominated more than anybody else as a
possible government plant, somebody in the UFO community who is secretly
working for the government to suppress information on UFO's and sabotage the
efforts of those researching them; a "shill" in the parlance of the
Conspirasphere. According to his official bio, Nick Pope joined the MoD in
1985, was appointed head of the UFO desk in 1991 and ran it until 1994. Due to
those few years he became a celebrity by becoming the media's designated
spokesman on UFO's; "Britain 's
Fox Mulder" as the press dubbed him. He retired in 2006 and is now a
freelance journalist and author. He sometimes writes for the same journal that
I do, Neon Nettle. The accusations go
along the lines that Pope did not in fact retire and that his MoD job was just
a cover for his real role in a very different
UK state
institution, one whose name also begins with the letter M. An argument has
recently broken out in social media over this. Somebody has issued a challenge
to find any evidence that Nick Pope really is a shill. It's a tricky situation
because if Nick is in fact a shill he is hardly likely to publish his payslips.
If he is not, how can he possibly prove himself innocent to everybody's satisfaction?
My advice is to treat Nick Pope as you would anybody else, with caution if you
don't trust him and openly if you do. It's important to strike a balance
between the extremes of reckless naiveté and "shill fever", see here
for details: http://hpanwo-tv.blogspot.co.uk/2015/03/the-shill-squad.html. I personally am wary of him for several reasons, the most recent being his support for Sacha Christie, see: http://hpanwo-voice.blogspot.co.uk/2017/06/the-larry-warren-controversy-part-15.html. However I have no proof he is not doing this for anything other than personal motives. Nevertheless it has to be said that there is a precedent for the kind of
infiltration many of us suspect is going on right now. It involves a man in the
USA who is very
similar to Nick Pope. His name is Richard Doty, pictured above, and he was involved in the
"Bennewitz Affair" in which he deliberately fell in with a UFO
researcher in order to mislead and confuse him. This he did as part of his role
for AFOSI- the Air Force Office of Special Investigation, see here for details:
http://hpanwo.blogspot.co.uk/2012/12/mirage-men-by-mark-pilkington.html.
Doty is a former government agent, like Nick Pope; however Doty speaks openly
today that he used to be an intelligence officer. Nick has made no such
confession. Both men are also hot property on the UFO conference circuit and I
one joked: "You can't have a UFO conference without Popey!" If
UFOlogy is being infiltrated by the state authorities then why is this
happening now? Is Disclosure imminent? Or is it not, yet there is the threat of
it happening inadvertently? Perhaps somebody on this inside has just gone on
the run with a video tape, like the Alien Interview, see: http://hpanwo-radio.blogspot.co.uk/2016/07/programme-196-podcast-alien-interview-20.html.
Could this be why we've seen other suspicious activity, like these "new
MJ-12" documents, see: http://hpanwo-voice.blogspot.co.uk/2017/06/new-ufo-files.html?
We'll have to wait and see. What Steve Murillo of the Los Angeles UFO and
Paranormal Research Society says in the Fade
to Black show at 144 mins 25 secs (2.22.53 on the YouTube podcast) is
interesting when it comes to Disclosure and gels with a lot of my own views.
See here for
background: http://hpanwo-tv.blogspot.co.uk/2017/03/ufo-disclosure-2017-what-about-britain.html.
Hi Ben,I think there having a laugh, UFOlogy has been infiltrated and misrepresented since Dr Steven Greer started the disclosure project..
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This is really interesting. Do you mind if I tell you a story about my late beloved granddad and his escapades, shall we way, in trying to give Ufology a higher more respected profile. In the early 1970s he was working as a guard at Deepcut Barracks near Woking and Farnborough when one night he and his close friend and colleague saw strange purple flashing lights hovering above the base. The WO (Warrant Officer) told him to follow these lights by Land Rover and find its destination.
ReplyDeleteAnyway, as the night wore on they managed to track the lights to what seemed like a prison complex where they hovered statically for a while then slowly descended inside the huge tall brick walls. They then, using a map, realised it was Broadmoor where the purple lights had landed. They went back and told the WO who then very tersely told them to knock off forget about it and go to bed.
The next morning they, my granddad and his friend, stole a helicopter, flew it to Cornwall and rammed it into the sea causing a huge fireball. My granddad survived but was sentenced to life in a military prison. We disowned him and he died last year.
See what happens to people when they try to uncover the truth which is why I have so much respect for you, Ben. We didn't disown him because of what he did but because he wouldn't let my dad sell his medals from WWII which resulted in my dad going bankrupt.
Iv never been sure of Steven greer..
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