tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2907980016894811549.post2942891617156418287..comments2024-03-28T13:35:40.706+00:00Comments on HPANWO Voice: David Icke Live- 2014Ben Emlyn-Joneshttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13858990047274822000noreply@blogger.comBlogger9125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2907980016894811549.post-30992021133585481072014-11-02T16:13:59.195+00:002014-11-02T16:13:59.195+00:00You're welcome, X. (David and I are going thro...You're welcome, X. (David and I are going through divorce proceedings as we speak) I suppose it's a bit like my daughter. She's a big 19 year old now and I don't see her very often, about once a week. She's happy with that because I'm close by if she needs me. When she was younger she needed me around much more of course. I remember the ascending and descending pathways from reading Ken Wilber. That's a good way of looking at David and what he does in his entirety. It helps understand how to avoid feeling resentment for him. All the best :-)Ben Emlyn-Joneshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13858990047274822000noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2907980016894811549.post-42499938724516888962014-11-01T16:40:46.447+00:002014-11-01T16:40:46.447+00:00Dear Ben. Thank's for your recent Youtube vide...Dear Ben. Thank's for your recent Youtube video covering the David Icke event, I enjoyed your views. I particularly felt relevant when you discuss 'moving on' from David Icke (Sorry if that sounded like I was implying that you and David had been in a long term loving relationship!!!!!). Anyway, I think you raise an important point that many people miss. People help mold us in our formative stages be they as children developing into adults or as in your case and mine as adults into more aware beings which can 'appear' to happen instantly or over 'time'. For instance there was an individual who was a profound influence on me during my awakening process and for those formative years I am indebted to him because although I have 'moved on' and became in a way his spiritually older sibling now we must not dismiss their relevance as it is on returning to the source of our growth that we truly understand the totality of our experience and learn things we missed before. There are two concepts in Chinese philosophy called 'xiangshang' and 'xiangxia' which mean 'up/upward/beyond/ascending' and 'down/downward/descending'. They have the meaning of rising above (xiangshang) everything that is conditioned (duality) and then returning back into the conditioned with a mind that is beyond discrimination and attachment but with infinite wisdom and means to not only help and guide others who helped us but also to put another peice to the puzzle which may be incomplete in the other individual. We are all human until we shed this skin bag and can rise to the occasion of seeing through the fabric of our limited perception. Those that only ascend and are not able to return downward are I find very judgemental, the most imperfect and those that are liable not to progress. If we should be grateful even to those who have meant to harm us but we have grown stronger from then how much more so to those who have meant to help with or without their own personal faults?. Thanks again. Take care BenAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2907980016894811549.post-22778800228225164352014-10-28T20:32:18.965+00:002014-10-28T20:32:18.965+00:00Yeah, something about forums turns people into dic...Yeah, something about forums turns people into dicksBen Emlyn-Joneshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13858990047274822000noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2907980016894811549.post-47563150630249143742014-10-27T23:24:35.964+00:002014-10-27T23:24:35.964+00:00I first saw him in 2005, a DVD of his 2003 brixton...I first saw him in 2005, a DVD of his 2003 brixton talk. Since,I have watched hundreds of talks/interviews, books, I admire him more as time goes on.<br />M.Gandhi and D.icke are my only 2 true hero's.<br />As for the forums, they are poisoned and I rarely bother with them anymore, it's a shame.Mike Smithnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2907980016894811549.post-27852490012778325842014-10-27T14:49:19.736+00:002014-10-27T14:49:19.736+00:00Absolutely, Nicholas 8-)Absolutely, Nicholas 8-)Ben Emlyn-Joneshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13858990047274822000noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2907980016894811549.post-20764568051877214022014-10-27T14:26:34.353+00:002014-10-27T14:26:34.353+00:00like the saying goes dont shoot the messenger and ...like the saying goes dont shoot the messenger and wow what a messenger he has been over the so many years , the more people spreading the truth and love the better , bring it on .nicholas howardnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2907980016894811549.post-89557347920815325952014-10-27T14:17:03.801+00:002014-10-27T14:17:03.801+00:00Well said, Susan. Me too :-)Well said, Susan. Me too :-)Ben Emlyn-Joneshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13858990047274822000noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2907980016894811549.post-33762880516285627252014-10-27T13:53:13.680+00:002014-10-27T13:53:13.680+00:00235235Susan Murraynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2907980016894811549.post-26308718930616356902014-10-27T13:52:17.665+00:002014-10-27T13:52:17.665+00:00The fact that David is human - with all the inhere...The fact that David is human - with all the inherent "faults and misdemenours" of the human condition, does not detract one iota, for me, the profound message he conveys, nor the enlightening information he has researched over the years; in fact, the knowledge that he shares all our erroneous characteristics, albeit with passionate good intentions, helps me resonate with him all the more.....as that is exactly where I am at right now :)<br />Susan Murraynoreply@blogger.com